Coding and Documenting BAL: Use a Medical DRG, Not a Surgical DRG

The author responds to a Talk Ten Tuesday listener’s comments regarding the coding of bronchoalveolar lavage.

During the Talk Ten Tuesday broadcast on July 24, 2018, Stacey Elliott, an inpatient compliance specialist and a guest panelist on program, and I had a discussion regarding bronchoalveolar lavage (BAL). Stacey had a concern that we were being given instruction to take BAL to a PCS code which we conjointly did not feel represented the procedure accurately. This was leading to a surgical DRG instead of a medical DRG.  I weighed in and supported Stacey’s position.

A listener wrote in expressing offense on behalf of the AHA Coding Clinic®. I would like to clarify, lest there is any misunderstanding.

I am a physician, not a coder nor a clinical documentation integrity specialist. It is my opinion that providers aim to have documentation accurately portray the patients’ complexity and severity. I believe coding professionals try to accurately translate that documentation into the correct codes. Lastly, I am convinced the Coding Clinic does its due diligence trying to arrive at the best conclusion to incorporate into its coding guidance with the information it gets.

If a code does not represent a patient correctly, compliance demands to seek an alternative solution.  However, the logical solution to me is not necessarily to query a physician as to whether they actually sampled from the patient’s lung or bronchus, as was suggested by the listener (see bottom of article for potential wording). Asking this would make a provider wonder if the questioner was knowledgeable because this coding-clinical disconnect will not resonate with the provider. The disconnect relates to the lack of correlation between human anatomy and ICD-10-PCS body parts.

Stacey and I still assert that an isolated bronchoalveolar lavage, consisting of instilling fluid and aspirating it from the bronchial tree, is misrepresented by using a lung body part. Coding Clinic is one of our most valued ICD-10 resources, but it is not infallible. If the procedure never violates the bronchial wall (no incision or puncture is made, i.e., the lung tissue is never entered or disturbed), it is our opinion that a bronchial body part is most appropriate. That is the extent of how far the bronchoscope entered the patient and it should define the fourth character in the seven-character PCS code.

To me, the “I” in CDI stands for integrity. I do not believe that coders are intentionally misleading the government into paying for a surgical DRG. If one uses the 3M encoder with the keyword/phrase, BAL, the offered body parts are lung segments. If the procedure is derived starting with the correct root operation of drainage, both lung and bronchus body parts are accessible.

At this point in time, ending up with a procedure of the lung, one ends up in a surgical DRG. Typically, a surgical DRG has higher reimbursement than a medical DRG, so this could be construed as trying to increase revenue (not cool!). However, we determined that since many of these patients are ventilated, the DRG from which we are being diverted is often one with the specification of >96 hours of ventilation. Consequently, you might end up in a lower paying DRG!

If you code an encounter and end up with a DRG which does not accurately reflect the patient course, you should reassess. If you recognize it seems wrong, but you do nothing because you believe the official resource of coding truth led you there, you are permitting an error to stand uncorrected which could be misconstrued as fraudulent behavior.

Fortunately, this aspect may be a moot point. Barbara Houghtaling from Trinity Health pointed out after the podcast that the IPPS FY 2019 is proposing to recharacterize lung biopsies as typically non-OR procedures. The proposal will result in eliminating the surgical DRG/non-surgical DRG issue from the equation.

I will conclude by saying I am not telling you what you must do, how to code procedures, or to incite willful disregard of Coding Clinic advice. Coding is an art, not a science, and you should do the best you can to accurately portray the patient encounter.

If you must query a provider, here is some proposed verbiage:

Dear Provider,

Due to coding compliance rules, we must ensure we are coding your procedure correctly. Was the bronchoscopic procedure performed completely within the bronchial tree, or was the lung proper involved (e.g., lung biopsy, excision, or resection)? This allows us to determine whether it is a procedure involving the bronchi or the actual lung tissue. Very sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,

CDIS

Remember, the patient should look as sick in the medical record as he looks in real life, no more and no less.

 

Program Note:

Listen to Dr. Remer every Tuesday on Talk Ten Tuesday, 10 a.m. ET.

Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn

Erica Remer, MD, FACEP, CCDS, ACPA-C

Erica Remer, MD, FACEP, CCDS, ACPA-C has a unique perspective as a practicing emergency physician for 25 years, with extensive coding, CDI, and ICD-10 expertise. As physician advisor for University Hospitals Health System in Cleveland, Ohio for four years, she trained 2,700 providers in ICD-10, closed hundreds of queries, fought numerous DRG clinical determination and medical necessity denials, and educated CDI specialists and healthcare providers with engaging, case-based presentations. She transitioned to independent consulting in July 2016. Dr. Remer is a member of the ICD10monitor editorial board and is the co-host on the popular Talk Ten Tuesdays weekly, live Internet radio broadcasts.

Related Stories

Leave a Reply

Please log in to your account to comment on this article.

Featured Webcasts

Enhancing Outcomes with CDI-Coding-Quality Collaboration in Acute Care Hospitals

Enhancing Outcomes with CDI-Coding-Quality Collaboration in Acute Care Hospitals

Join Angela Comfort, DBA, MBA, RHIA, CDIP, CCS, CCS-P, as she presents effective strategies to strengthen collaboration between CDI, coding, and quality departments in acute care hospitals. Angela will also share guidance on implementing cross-departmental meetings, using shared KPIs, and engaging leadership to foster a culture of collaboration. Attendees will gain actionable tools to optimize documentation accuracy, elevate quality metrics, and drive a unified approach to healthcare goals, ultimately enhancing both patient outcomes and organizational performance.

November 21, 2024
Comprehensive Inpatient Clinical Documentation Integrity: From Foundations to Advanced Strategies

Comprehensive Outpatient Clinical Documentation Integrity: From Foundations to Advanced Strategies

Optimize your outpatient clinical documentation and gain comprehensive knowledge from foundational practices to advanced technologies, ensuring improved patient care and organizational and financial success. This webcast bundle provides a holistic approach to outpatient CDI, empowering you to implement best practices from the ground up and leverage advanced strategies for superior results. You will gain actionable insights to improve documentation quality, patient care, compliance, and financial outcomes.

September 5, 2024
Advanced Outpatient Clinical Documentation Integrity: Mastering Complex Narratives and Compliance

Advanced Outpatient Clinical Documentation Integrity: Mastering Complex Narratives and Compliance

Enhancing outpatient clinical documentation is crucial for maintaining accuracy, compliance, and proper reimbursement in today’s complex healthcare environment. This webcast, presented by industry expert Angela Comfort, DBA, RHIA, CDIP, CCS, CCS-P, will provide you with actionable strategies to tackle complex challenges in outpatient documentation. You’ll learn how to craft detailed clinical narratives, utilize advanced EHR features, and implement accurate risk adjustment and HCC coding. The session also covers essential regulatory updates to keep your documentation practices compliant. Join us to gain the tools you need to improve documentation quality, support better patient care, and ensure financial integrity.

September 12, 2024

Trending News

Featured Webcasts

Patient Notifications and Rights: What You Need to Know

Patient Notifications and Rights: What You Need to Know

Dr. Ronald Hirsch provides critical details on the new Medicare Appeal Process for Status Changes for patients whose status changes during their hospital stay. He also delves into other scenarios of hospital patients receiving custodial care or medically unnecessary services where patient notifications may be needed along with the processes necessary to ensure compliance with state and federal guidance.

December 5, 2024
Navigating the No Surprises Act & Price Transparency: Essential Insights for Compliance

Navigating the No Surprises Act & Price Transparency: Essential Insights for Compliance

Healthcare organizations face complex regulatory requirements under the No Surprises Act and Price Transparency rules. These policies mandate extensive fee disclosures across settings, and confusion is widespread—many hospitals remain unaware they must post every contracted rate. Non-compliance could lead to costly penalties, financial loss, and legal risks.  Join David M. Glaser Esq. as he shows you how to navigate these regulations effectively.

November 19, 2024
Post Operative Pain Blocks: Guidelines, Documentation, and Billing to Protect Your Facility

Post Operative Pain Blocks: Guidelines, Documentation, and Billing to Protect Your Facility

Protect your facility from unwanted audits! Join Becky Jacobsen, BSN, RN, MBS, CCS-P, CPC, CPEDC, CBCS, CEMC, and take a deep dive into both the CMS and AMA guidelines for reporting post operative pain blocks. You’ll learn how to determine if the nerve block is separately codable with real life examples for better understanding. Becky will also cover how to evaluate whether documentation supports medical necessity, offer recommendations for stronger documentation practices, and provide guidance on educating providers about documentation requirements. She’ll include a discussion of appropriate modifier and diagnosis coding assignment so that you can be confident that your billing of post operative pain blocks is fully supported and compliant.

October 24, 2024
The OIG Update: Targets and Tools to Stay in Compliance

The OIG Update: Targets and Tools to Stay in Compliance

During this RACmonitor webcast Dr. Ronald Hirsch spotlights the areas of the OIG’s Work Plan and the findings of their most recent audits that impact utilization review, case management, and audit staff. He also provides his common-sense interpretation of the prevailing regulations related to those target issues. You’ll walk away better equipped with strategies to put in place immediately to reduce your risk of paybacks, increased scrutiny, and criminal penalties.

September 19, 2024

Trending News

Prepare for the 2025 CMS IPPS Final Rule with ICD10monitor’s IPPSPalooza! Click HERE to learn more

Get 15% OFF on all educational webcasts at ICD10monitor with code JULYFOURTH24 until July 4, 2024—start learning today!

CYBER WEEK IS HERE! Don’t miss your chance to get 20% off now until Dec. 2 with code CYBER24